β30-06-2020 09:37 AM
β30-06-2020 09:37 AM
@Maggie unfortunately I can relate to your post above. Well done.
β30-06-2020 09:41 AM
β30-06-2020 09:41 AM
Thanks @NatureLover , a long way to go yet though. Still being accepted there, so I might be dreaming, or in for a mighty let down. Itβs worth a try. ππ
β30-06-2020 09:45 AM
β30-06-2020 09:45 AM
It can be overwhelming to know the person you care about is coming home after theyβve attempted suicide. How is their mental health now? What support will they need? What will happen next?
When I think back to my own lived experience: It's strange, but back after my second suicide attempt and treatment in the hospital emergency department at age 16, there was no further support. My parents are not fans of psychology, so maybe that's why. Maybe they felt the stigma of my suicide attempt and wanted to brush it all under the carpet. I could have used some talk therapy and psychiatric care for sure, back then. I'm glad things have improved since then. When I was finally referred by the hospital to a psychiatrist about 13 years ago, as a mature adult, this support made a big difference to me.
β30-06-2020 09:47 AM
β30-06-2020 09:47 AM
@Maggie wrote:Thanks @NatureLover , a long way to go yet though. Still being accepted there, so I might be dreaming, or in for a mighty let down. Itβs worth a try. ππ
@Maggie - it's definitely worth a try, and much needed. Good for you.
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β30-06-2020 10:37 AM - edited β30-06-2020 12:42 PM
It can be overwhelming to know the person you care about is coming home after theyβve attempted suicide. How is their mental health now? What support will they need? What will happen next?
I was reading the Returning Home section of the YANA resource, where it indicates that trying to force someone to get professional help might actually backfire. As a carer, it's hard when a suicidal person has had a bad experience with a mental health professional and refuses to see any psychologist or psychiatrist after that. Their experience is of course valid, but it makes it harder to support them. I have a suicidal friend in real life who has never had a bad experience, but still refuses to see a psychologist or psychiatrist on principle. It makes me sad, as I think they could be so much happier if they allowed themselves some therapy and /or medication.
β30-06-2020 12:34 PM
β30-06-2020 12:34 PM
I was terrified when Mr Darcy came home, I was scared to leave him on his own in case he attempted again, it took me a little time to be able to do so but I knew that I needed to. When he first came home he was heavily medicated, was still on maintainance ECT and he spent a lot of time sleeping, he had side effects that were distressing to him. As his crisis meds and ECT were tapered off, the side efffects abated, he slept less and began to do more around home, his mood having stabilised following the introduction of his current medications and the removal of others.
After having a reality check, I understood that his condition that can be managed if we follow best practice guidelines which we now do. As time went by we became more proactive in managing symptoms such as eating more fruit and veg to help combat constipation, getting out and doing things so things so we did not feel housebound and getting our home tidied up as it had got into quite a mess. At present he has the support of a pdoc and a case worker as well as myself. He does not have a therapist (therapy has always been a bit hit and miss) but in recent time has had some counselling support from the Cancer Council due to his cancer diagnosis, this has the potential to be helpful in relation to his mental health.
It took a little while for me to stop being afraid that he would reattempt on hold and be a little more trusting of the treatment process which happened when the meds were shown to be clearly working. I don't know how I would react if he were to become acute again. Trust is still a huge issue for me, I was very angry in relation to treatment Mr Darcy recieved under a treatment order and lodged a complaint in relation to it which resulted in far better outcomes than what I hoped for. We have moved interstate and have a new treating team and I know that it will take some time to build trust.
The things that really helped me/him/us were:
β30-06-2020 12:43 PM
β30-06-2020 12:43 PM
hello @Former-Member , @Former-Member , @NatureLover , @Maggie , @Former-Member
will be back soon to share xxxx
β30-06-2020 12:52 PM
β30-06-2020 12:52 PM
Wow, thank you for sharing all that, @Former-Member , that's really useful.
@Former-Member wrote:We began to work as a team. I understood better when and how to support him, when to advocate for him and how to do this in a respectful way in relation to the treating team. I will not support something that I feel unreasonable ie no medication, however before accepting any medication on offer I fully expect that Mr Darcy will be given a clear understanding that perceived benefits will outweigh any risks of taking it and that any concerns we have are addressed in a satisfactory manner before the pdoc hands over a script.
This sounds so positive. It makes me feel sad, actually, for single people who don't have that high level of support that you provide for your husband. Hopefully they would have family or friends to support them, but it's not always the case.
@Former-Member wrote:I check in with Mr D from time to time to ensure that he feels the level of support I am giving him is appropriate as I want him to be as independent as possible and we have a good system in place.
This sounds a great idea, and a good system that you have. I think I will check in with my suicidal friend similarly...
β30-06-2020 01:20 PM - edited β30-06-2020 01:23 PM
β30-06-2020 01:20 PM - edited β30-06-2020 01:23 PM
It can be overwhelming to know the person you care about is coming home after theyβve attempted suicide.
sure is @Former-Member , @NatureLover , @Former-Member , @Maggie , @Former-Member
like @Former-Member said I woke up at every sound, toolk me a while to kinda relax , even now when mr shaz is unwell , i start to wonder again
How is their mental health now?--- when we were going home he was very quiet ,
What support will they need?----- the specialists want to transfer mr shaz to another place for another 2 weeks for life training but he denied it
Also mr shaz was told to have 3 months off work but he did not
What will happen next?--- we had to wait until the mental health team rang and they were 30 kms away
This can even be the case with loved ones who arenβt suicidal, but perhaps thereβs a change in medication or treatment plans.---- yes mr shaz had more meds
What are some things that would help you navigating sudden changes in caring for your loved one?
I Remember our first night at home ,
I look up the internet and printed out information to help us both ,
working together has been good but over time
Also we logged on to Sane Australia Forum that night and we both open threads with our questions , and the support and encouragement here was soo wonderful and helpful
β30-06-2020 01:49 PM
β30-06-2020 01:49 PM
@Shaz51 wrote:like @Former-Member said I woke up at every sound, toolk me a while to kinda relax , even now when mr shaz is unwell , i start to wonder again
Also mr shaz was told to have 3 months off work but he did not
It must be difficult to relax once your partner has attempted suicide. How was it, for you and for Mr Shaz, when he kept working?
@Shaz51 wrote:I look up the internet and printed out information to help us both ,
working together has been good but over time
Also we logged on to Sane Australia Forum that night and we both open threads with our questions , and the support and encouragement here was soo wonderful and helpful
I'm so glad you found information and support π
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